NFL Week 17 Picks – Happy New Year!
2011-01-01 Leave a comment
Happy New Year!
I love the all-division games for week 17. In honor of that I am doing a quick pick, with a 2010 lasting impression for each team and a recap of my pre-season prediction.
Also, I have some good news the SuperCave contest has been extended through the playoffs (when I create the contest, I can change the rules to fit my needs, which loosely translated means I am getting drilled by CaveKid).
Season Totals: 115-119-6 (.500) (6-10 last week)
LHSC: 35-43-2 (294th) (3-2 last week)
SuperCave Contest Standings
| G-Dub | 38-26 |
| CaveKid | 36-28 |
| Caveman | 27-37 |
Note: I use the Las Vegas Hilton Lines from covers.com. The Super Contest lines are not live, but instead are set early and held like a parlay card.
And this week the SuperContest lines are crazy due to the late information, so here are my week 17 picks: Green Bay -6.5, Dallas +12.0, Houston +2.5, New England -3.0 and St. Louis -3.0
NFC SOUTH
Carolina @ Atlanta (-14.0)
Pre-season predictions:
Carolina: 10-6 (Second NFC South, loss in wildcard game) – Whoops! Somehow I thought this team had some talent and losing Jake Delhomme would be such a huge upgrade that could grab at least two more wins.
Atlanta: 9-7 (Third in NFC South) – I thought before the season they were a solid, but forgettable team.
2010 Lasting impression:
Carolina: The turd Matt Moore laid in game one against the Giants. Moore threw two terrible interceptions in the red zone against the Giants in a game that was very winnable. The Panthers never recovered.
Atlanta: The Roddy White stiff-arm, “uncalled”, pass interference against the Ravens. That play exemplified the Falcons good fortune this season. Will that continue in the playoffs? We shall see.
Picks:
Caveman, Atlanta -14.0, The Falcons need this game or they face the possibility of having to go on the road in the playoffs.
Cavekid’s Pick, Atlanta -14 -”the Falcons beat the Panthers by 21 points last time and being at home will help them win again.”
Tampa Bay @ New Orleans (-7.0)
Pre-season predictions:
Tampa Bay: 5-11 (Fourth in NFC South) – Who knew that Josh Freeman when combined with young hungry defenders and young skilled players on offense would be enough to compensate for a terrible head coach? Not me.
New Orleans: 11-5 (First NFC South, loss in NFC Championship) – The schedule didn’t seem too terribly tough and generally the Super Champ makes back to the playoffs.
2010 Lasting impression:
Tampa Bay: The two heart-breaking losses to Atlanta, where both games were incredibly winnable.
New Orleans: The fumble by Heath Miller in the week 8 game against the Steelers. The Steelers were driving for at least a field goal to tie and possibly the winning touchdown which would have left the Saints at 4-4. After the game the schedule got easier and you could almost hear the Saints tell the world, “Well, if you’re not going to knock us out after these eight games, then we might as well win it again!”
Picks:
Caveman, Tampa Bay +7.0 – Once the Saints look at the scoreboard and see the Falcons up 21 points, Payton will call off the dogs.
Cavekid’s Pick, New Orleans -7.0 – “I mean the Saints haven’t done anything wrong that would keep them from winning.”
NFC NORTH
Chicago @ Green Bay (-9.5)
Pre-season predictions:
Chicago: 5-11 (Fourth NFC North) – I still think this team is no better than an eight win team. I am very much looking forward to the divisional playoff round where the Bears will be favored over either the Eagles or Saints. Cha-Ching!
Green Bay: 12-4(First NFC North, Super Bowl XLV champions) – So, you’re saying there is still a chance.
2010 Lasting impression:
Chicago: The 36-3 ass-whooping the Patriots gave them, which I think is more representative of them as a team than any other game on the schedule.
Green Bay: The Desean Jackson punt return against the Giants, which put the Packers in position to control their own destiny. Without that the lasting memory for the Packers would be the moronic Aaron Rodgers jaunt through the middle of Ford Field, like he was chasing an overthrown frisbee in Central Park.
Picks:
Caveman, Green Bay -9.5 – I have to admit it would be so Mike McCarthy-like for the Packers to lose this game.
Cavekid’s Pick, Chicago +9.5 -”I think that the Bears will win again, even if they don’t the game will be close.”
Minnesota @ Detroit (-3.5)
Pre-season predictions:
Minnesota: 8-8 (Second in NFC North) – Nailed it! I missed by a couple of games, but my general feeling was Favre would destroy this team.
Detroit: 6-10 (Third in NFC North) – All that stands between 6-10 and third place is the Vikings. Consider it done.
2010 Lasting impression:
Minnesota: Brett Favre laying motionless on the frozen Minnesota turf in week 15 against the Bears. I can’t say I wasn’t cheering!
Detroit: The Calvin Johnson non-touchdown in week one against the Bears. That single play may have flipped this division in the Bears favor and at the same time cost the Lions an early season surge of momentum. Is the football world ready for the Lions and Rams playing for the 2011 NFC Championship? Just remember, you heard it here first!
Picks:
Caveman, Detroit -3.5 – I am not buying into Joe Webb quite yet, but by all means fantasy freaks put himn in your top 10 amongst quarterbacks for next year.
Cavekid’s Pick, Minnesota+3.5 – “The Vikings logo is much cooler than the Lion which is plain and blue.”
NFC WEST
St. Louis (-3.0) @ Seattle
Pre-season predictions:
St. Louis: 3-13 (Fourth in NFC West) – I didn’t count on – 1. Bradford staying healthy; 2. Bradford being this good; 3. The NFC West being this ridiculously bad; and 4.the Rams defense stepping up just enough.
Seattle: 7-9 (Second in NFC West) – Pretty much what I expected – mediocrity.
2010 Lasting impression:
St. Louis: The stand at the end of the Broncos game. The Rams did everything they could to lose that game – go conservative on offense; they gave up huge chunks of yardage in the middle of the field when burning time was in their favor; and they had a special teams breakdown at a critical time. But the defense rose up, stopped the Broncos which allowed the Rams to escape with a win.
Seattle: Matt Hasselbeck pulling up lame after scoring a touchdown against the Bucs in week 16. Now the Seahawks are most likely left starting Johnny Depp at quarterback for the biggest game of the season. Oh yeah, they and the 12th man are 3 point underdogs because of this.
Picks:
Caveman, St. Louis -3.0 – Yep, I am taking a rookie quarterback on the road in a winner-take-all matchup. A lot of that is the Charlie Whitehurst factor, but some of it is the fact that the Seahawks are treating this like a bowl game – yesterday they toured the Space Needle.
Cavekid’s Pick, St. Louis -3 – “You have to support one of your favorite teams.”
Arizona @ San Francisco (-6.0)
Pre-season predictions:
Arizona: 6-10 (3rd place in NFC West) – Exactly what I thought – though I didn’t count on them getting wins against the Saints or Cowboys.
San Francisco: 9-7 (NFC West Champ, loss in Wildcard round) – So, I wasn’t all-in on the 49ers like most of the “experts” (one moron had the 49ers at 12-4), but in my wildest dreams I couldn’t imagine that they wouldn’t at least win 6 games (division games).
2010 Lasting impression:
Arizona: All the way back in the pre-season, the very first pass to Larry Fitzgerald was high, forcing Fitz to leap and take a hit that cost the rest of the pre-season. The result the offense was never in-sync causing Whisenhunt into the “Max Hall” (who is a dead ringer for Matt Saracen) experiment. The rest is history. Either that or Derek Anderson just sucks!
San Francisco: Mike Singletary holding up his index finger asking the referees for one more second in the week 16 game against the Rams. The irony was thick as the 49ers seemingly had “one more” opportunity every week and just wouldn’t die.
Picks:
Caveman, Arizona +6.0, Whisenhunt has the Cardinals playing hard to the end. The 49ers cannot wait to get out of the locker room to start their off-season.
Cavekid’s Pick, San Francisco -6 -”The Cardinals suck.”
NFC EAST
Dallas @ Philadelphia (-3.0)
Pre-season predictions:
Dallas: 11-5 (Second NFC East, loss in divisional round) – This team was doomed from the start. I should’ve known, but I am a sucker for overly talented teams coached by the Pillsbury dough boy.
Philadelphia: 11-5 (First NFC East, loss in divisional round) – 11-5 was based on Kevin Kolb, had I known Vick was going to be the Brady with legs-clone, I might have had them at 13-3.
2010 Lasting impression:
Dallas: Game one against the Redskins. The Tashard Choice senseless fumble before half and the holding call on the game winning touchdown optimized the Boys 2010 campaign.
Philadelphia: The Minnesota game in week 16. Not only did it cost the Eagles a bye, but The Vikings gave the league the blueprint on how to contain Vick. Plus, they beat on Vick repeatedly and lower body injuries do not heal at this time of year.
Picks:
Caveman, Dallas +3.0 – The Vikings also gifted gamblers the Cowboys in week 17.
Cavekid’s Pick, Dallas +3 – “having home field advantage will help the Cowboys to keep the game close.”
Me – And I am nine games behind someone who lucks into picks because they cannot figure out the correct home team.
NY Giants (-3.5) @ Washington
Pre-season predictions:
NY Giants: 9-7 (Third in NFC East) – Another impressive call by Caveman! Though without the D-Jax punt return the Giants are most likely the #2 seed.
Washington: 7-9 (Fourth in NFC East) – I debated between 6 and 7 wins for the Skins, but ultimately I decided to go with 7 because a buddy of mine was adamant that the addition of McNabb and Shanahan was enough for at least three wins. That’s what I get for listening to my buddies. And, my buddy Paul, is begging for Giants to mail this game in, so he can cover his over 6.5 win total on the Skins.
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2010 Lasting impression:
NY Giants: Tom Coughlin dressing down his punter after failing to kick the ball out of bounds. Yea, Tom it’s all Dodge’s fault.
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Washington: The pulling of McNabb for the two minute drill against the Detroit because of his conditioning. Little do we know that Shanahan fell out of love with McNabb in week two.
Picks:
Caveman, NY Giants -3.5 – So, the Giants will pummel the Redskins on the faint hope that the Bears show up against the Packers. By the time the Giants get the news the Packers are winning handedly, they should be up by 21.
Cavekid’s Pick, New York Giants -3.5 -”Even though Washington has home field advantage I still think they will get crushed by the mighty Giants.”
AFC EAST
Miami @ New England (-5.0)
Pre-season predictions:
Miami: 9-7 (Second AFC East) – After a 2-0 road start the feeling was this might be the best team in the AFC. They soon leveled out their productive road efforts with atrocious home play.
New England: 12-4 (First AFC East, loss in Super Bowl) – In hindsight, I’m not sure why I thought this team would win 12 games, except for the fact that Belichick makes other coaches wet their pants.
2010 Lasting impression:
Miami: The Roethlisberger fumble game, the Dolphins played tough that game but as was the case more often than not, came away empty.
New England: The Browns game. Somehow this team got whipped in Cleveland, which I think is a pre-cursor to the playoffs.
Picks:
Caveman, New England -5.0 To their credit they play week 17 like any other week regardless of the situation, damn be the Welker injury.
CaveKid’s Pick, New England -5 – “The Patriots killed (literally) the Dolphins last game. I think it’s a safe bet on the Patriots.”
Buffalo @ NY Jets (-10)
Pre-season predictions:
Buffalo: 4-12 (Fourth AFC East) – They play hard but they’re the Northwestern of the AFC East.
NY Jets: 8-8 (Third AFC East) – I would be smiling from ear to ear if the Jets didn’t pull out the Browns, Lions and Texans games.
2010 Lasting impression:
Buffalo: The Steve Johnson dropped pass of a game winning touchdown against the Steelers. Yea, it’s only one game but bad teams find ways to lose. This is an example of how close, yet how far away, this Bills is to being a factor in December.
NY Jets: The gang rape in Foxboro. You cannot get whupped 45-3 after all the smack talk by Rexy.
Picks:
Caveman, Buffalo +1.0 – The Jets are going to mail in this game.
CaveKid’s Pick, New York Jets -1 – “Even though I think the jets suck reeaallllyyy bad!, I think they can win this one.”
AFC NORTH
Pittsburgh (-5.5) @ Cleveland
Pre-season predictions:
Pittsburgh: 10-6 (Second AFC North, loss in wildcard round) – I put too much into the Roethlisberger suspension. I figured they would be lucky to be 2-2 without Roethlisberger and then struggles for a couple games with him.
Cleveland: 4-12 (Fourth in AFC North) – I downgraded them because of the quarterback; I mean what team in their right mind signs Jake Delhomme after what they witnessed him in Carolina?
2010 Lasting impression:
Pittsburgh: The beating at the hands of the Patriots. They won’t say it out loud, but every Steelers fan knows they cannot beat the Patriots in the playoffs. So, they’re left to root for either the Ravens, Colts, or, gulp, Jets to knock New England out of the playoffs prior to the AFC championship.
Cleveland: The Jets game, where the Browns went from a likely win to virtually guaranteed to tie to a mind-blowing loss (think about the investors who bought into Browns stock that week).
Picks:
Caveman, Pittsburgh -5.5 – Tough one here, but the Steelers need this game and you have to think they break out the whooping stick.
CaveKid’s Pick, Pittsburgh -5.5 – “Being away won’t stop Worthlessberger from playing a good game and leading his team to a victory.”
Cincinnati @ Baltimore (-9.5)
Pre-season predictions:
Cincinnati: 6-10 (Third AFC North) – I figured 2009 was an aberration for the Bengals, but I had no idea they would be this bad.
Baltimore: 12-4 (First AFC North, loss in AFC Championship) – In my book they underachieved this season, their losses were all close, winnable games (Bengals by 5, Steelers by 3, Falcons by 5 and Patriots by 3 in OT). Of course, a lot of their wins were close, losable games.
2010 Lasting impression:
Cincinnati: Blowing a 28-7 lead to the Bills, at home no less. And they didn’t just lose they got blown out!
Baltimore: The home loss to the Steelers. The only way they lose that game it to let the Steelers defense make a huge play and that’s exactly what they did.
Picks:
Caveman, Cincinnati +9.5 – The Bengals always play the Ravens tough, plus there is something to the theory that Cincy is a better team without the theatrics Ocho and TO create.
CaveKid’s Pick, Cincinnati +9.5 – “I’m pretty sure a Bengal can take down a raven like that. I’ve seen it done before.”
AFC SOUTH
Tennessee @ Indianapolis (-9.5)
Pre-season predictions:
Tennessee: 9-7 (Third AFC South) – The Titans, early in the season, looked poised to post a 9 or 10 win season, but then the Jeff Fisher/Vince Young thing happened.
Indianapolis: 11-5 (1st place AFC South, loss in Divisional round) – By default, but they’re going to be hard pressed to get past Baltimore in the wildcard round.
2010 Lasting impression:
Tennessee: Vince Young throwing his gear into the stands. That is so classic that I started thinking about “what if” other professionals did the same thing. Imagine a judge whipping his grim reaper gown and gavel into the audience of a court; or a plumber launching a well used plunger into the middle of a customer’s living room. The possibilities are endless!
Indianapolis: The Patriots game where Manning threw the back-breaking (Ya think so, doctor!) interception when the Colts were in comfortable field goal range. That play foreshadowed the next two games for the Colts where seemingly every other Manning pass was intercepted and returned for a touchdown.
Picks:
Caveman, Indianapolis -9.5 – Come on, no way Manning allows this game to be close.
CaveKid’s pick, Tennessee +9.5, “I think that the Titans will keep it close like last game.”
Jacksonville @ Houston (-3.0)
Pre-season predictions:
Jacksonville: 7-9 (Fourth AFC South) – I knew they would end up with either 7, 8 or 9 wins, but I figured with the Texans making the leap, that would be enough to keep the Jags below .500.
Houston: 10-6 (Second place AFC South, loss wildcard round) – By far my worst call in the AFC, and yet, if Andre Johnson doesn’t fumble against the Chargers, Joel Dreessen (who?) doesn’t fumble against the Jags, if the Texans secondary decides to cover Braylon Edwards and Schuab doesn’t throw that back-breaking pick-6 against the Ravens, the Texans would be 10-6.
2010 Lasting impression:
Jacksonville: It would be easy to go with the hail-mary against the Texans, but for me it was the Garrard interception that led to the Redskins game winning field goal in week 16. Most Jaguar fans have never completely trusted Garrard, but they had started to buy into him this season and then BAM, a weak, falling backwards, pass to the outside that ends the Jaguar season, just like that.
Houston: There are so many to choose from. But I think I will take the current headline – “Kubiak to return as Texans coach”. Really? Wow, just wow, that’s unreal, what does this guy have to do to get fired? It’s as if the Texans owner is buying to the just plain ‘ol “bad luck” theory.
Picks:
Caveman, Houston -3.0 – The Texans failed in their attempts to Kubiak fired so they might as well win this game.
CaveKid’s Pick, Jacksonville +3, “I’m sure Houston will crap their pants again just like they did last week when I picked them to win.”
Me – Even CaveKid thinks Kubiak should be fired!
AFC WEST
San Diego (-3.5) @ Denver
Pre-season predictions:
San Diego: 10-6 (First AFC West, loss in divisional round) – Only Norv Turner can take a 14 win team loaded with young talent and turn them into a playoff spectator.
Denver: 5-11 (Third place AFC West) – I thought this team would be a mess with an average defense and no identity on offense.
2010 Lasting impression:
San Diego: The first loss to Oakland. That was a microcosm of the Chargers season, horrible start (two blocked punts), rally to take the lead, yet ultimately find a way to blow the game (Raiders second game and Bengals last week).
Denver: The Tim Tebow era. Say what you want about Tebow but the guy battles and battles and battles! He’s that kid who kept coming back until he finally won the fight.
Picks:
Caveman, Denver +3.5 – Tebow is a gift to sports investors.
CaveKid’s Pick , San Diego -3.5, “The Chargers simply have a much better record and are a better team than the Broncos.”
Oakland @ Kansas City (-3.0)
Pre-season predictions:
Oakland: 4-12 (Fourth AFC West) – Originally I had the Raiders pegged as my surprise team, but when I told a buddy of mine, he informed me that the Raiders “were everyone’s surprise team”! That was enough to get me off their scent and onto the Panthers. Ugh!
Kansas City: 6-10 (Second place AFC West) – Wow, I really butchered this division. I definitely thought the Chiefs would be better, but not playoff material nor a team that could weather the storm when things got crazy. But the Chiefs did both.
2010 lasting impression:
Oakland: The 35-yard missed field goal by Sebastian Janikowski against the Cardinals in week 3. That loss haunted them the entire year. A win there turns the week 16 game against the Colts from meaningless to meaningful and this game against the Chiefs into a matchup for the division. But it’s not like the Raiders burned a high draft pick on Janikowski, right?
Kansas City: The St. Louis game. The Chiefs, coming off a drubbing by the Chargers the prior week, fell behind the Rams 6-0. With the division slipping away, the Chiefs pulled it together, beat the Rams and then got an early Christmas present as the Raiders beat the Chargers – division over!
Picks:
Caveman, Kansas City -3.0 - Charlie Weis is leaving the Chiefs to take the OC job at Florida? Of course he is, I mean he was such a great head coach in college, why not continue to pursue that path.
CaveKid’s Pick , Oakland +3.0 – “My dad always says “hey Chief” and he sometimes adds “you suck!” so I’m going to have to favor the Raiders.”
Me – And you thought J.D. McCoy had it rough with his pops!

